Does anyone know of affiliate companies that have a lot of PPL offers? and how exactly would you find out whether an offer is ppl? i.e. are PPL offers usually limited to specific industries and/or things?
Submitted by smile66603 on Wed, 05/21/2008 - 18:17.
I've found a lot of PPL merchants on both CJ and Linkshare. My business is 100% PPL, so I'm always looking for new ones. I think CPA Empire is a big one too.
Are there any products that you find PPL works best for? when I think PPL, I'm think informational E-books (how to lose weight, how to get rid of a flu, etc, etc).
Submitted by smile66603 on Thu, 05/22/2008 - 01:05.
Pretty much anything having to do with the service industry. Also, things like home loans, personal loans, auto loans. With PPL, I do 100% PPC, I don't do any mailing lists or anything like that. That's too much like work! LOL
Submitted by smile66603 on Tue, 05/27/2008 - 14:00.
Actually, loans are how I got my start. Listen to the first session of the Black Ink Project, Jeremy talks about competitive niches. You may have to pay $2 to $5 a click, but you can make $50 to $100 a lead.
Submitted by smile66603 on Thu, 05/29/2008 - 00:43.
When I first started, my budget was very small, only about $300 a day. It was very frustrating to know my campaigns were capable of making money, but I couldn't afford to run them, so I had to pause my ads until I got my next check from CJ. After I was able to build up my business capital and before the mortgage market went to hell, I was spending around $1,000 to $1,500 a day.
Submitted by smile66603 on Thu, 05/29/2008 - 16:44.
Actually, $300 a day would be $9,000 a month, I think you meant $2,100 a week but you're correct, that is a little on the high end.
If you're spending a little over $16 a day, you may have a little difficulty. You'll need to keep a close eye on your keywords to make sure you don't have any keywords that are costing you too much, and you'll need to determine what your money makers are pretty quickly.
My experience has been that keywords with low search volumes are difficult to track, so I mainly target high volume keywords. Keywords that only get 1 click a month, just don't offer enough data for me to make a decision. If I can find a keyword that gets 300 clicks a month and converts well, then I'm happy. I have lots of data to make my decision and I can make really good money from that word. Since I don’t want to rely on just one word, I try to come up with as many as I can and track those. I create a spread sheet of high volume keywords, and what position they were at when they made me money along with some other data and I work at optimizing those keywords. All the low volume keywords are just eating into my profit.
Also, if you have a low daily budget, your ads won’t get a lot of exposure, which will probably give you even less data to look at.
I thought one of the attractions of AM was that it was a business you could start with very low costs (no inventory, no need for storage space, no employee's, etc, etc).
However, based on what you have said here, this is not the case. I suspect that very few people can afford to "blow" $9,000 dollars a month on an initial experiment (unless you don't mind accumulating huge credit card debts while you are still learning).
I think looking into a blog type site and building it up with SEO and links, might be a better and cheaper option for me.
I've read about a number of bloggers who are making upwards of $50,000 dollars a month and not spending a dime on PPC!
How much of that $9,000 dollars a month comes back in PURE profit? the idea of spending $9,000 a month, just to make an extra $1,000 a month doesn't really appeal to me.
Submitted by smile66603 on Mon, 06/02/2008 - 23:25.
Don't let this discourage you, it took me about 3 to 6 months to build up to the point where I could spend $9,000 a month. Actually, before the mortgage market fell, I was spending around $1,500 a day, but I had to work up to that.
I don't think it would be unreasonable to make around $3,000 a month if you're spending $9,000 a month. That is if you can find a good merchant in a good niche, do good keyword research and tracking and design a site that converts well.
Also, keep in mind that once you have a campaign very well optimized, many times they go into autopilot mode. Especially with the PPL I promote, because you don't have to worry about adding new product models, or removing old products. This means you're making $3000 a month whether you're sleeping, eating dinner at a nice restaurant, mowing the lawn or working on new campaigns. That's the beauty of residual income.
I've always worked with PPL in the service industry, but I didn't start with mortgages, I started in cheaper industries where I could get clicks cheaper. I started out in industries where the commission was only $7 to $15 dollars and I was only paying .30 to .90 a click. That way, I didn't have to pay as much for my education, I could learn without having to spend too much. I'm glad I did too, because I really struggled at first. I had the web knowledge, but not the marketing knowledge. Between Jeremy's ebook and my own first hand experience, I was able to get to the point where I was ready and could afford to spend that type of money.
All I meant is the more you can start with, the faster you can learn and the more testing you can do. Jeremy talks about this in one of the Black Ink Project webinars. Since you have less to spend, there will be less room for errors.
Trust me, if I can do it, you can make it work too.
I read Jeremy's e-book and I'm not sure why everyone is praising it so much. There's really no information in the e-book that will give me an "edge" in terms of learning affiliate marketing. I'm actually learning more from this forums where I get to ask people like you specific questions.
My main problem right now is figuring out what to sell and because I don't have money to waste, it can't be an expensive niche with expensive keywords.
I plan to outsource the building of the website so that I can concentrate of the marketing end of things, but I first have to figure out what to sell.
I'm not one to typically do this (as I'm sick of adults acting like children in forums) but that post got under my skin...
I take issue with your comments regarding Jeremy's book. First, his book has been praised by top level affiliates (worldwide) and there is no other affiliate book on the market (especially FREE) that offers as much insight into affiliate marketing--I challenge you to compare.
As far as the forum goes - it was created to supplement the original ebook (another bright idea of the ebook's author for YOUR benefit) - which incidentally would have been at a cost to you previously.
I don't know about you but I couldn't make $5 trying to promote a site targeted to 17-year-old females - I have NO clue what they are interested in right now, but the owner of the website in the link you shared does know because she is 17 and that is why she saw success - she wasn't "looking for what to sell", rather, she focused on a project that she and her peers were interested in and built a "Viral" empire almost by accident.
I'm sure (because of my age) I could (easily) start a blog and post relevant topics that appeal to a male audience in their late 20's to early 30's - that would make money as the traffic grew (over time) and I gained subscribers. Not only would my subscribers see relevant ads on my blog but I'd have a targeted group of folks I know a lot about - simply because they are in my age group - whom I could send relevant offers to over and over again.
The greatest lesson to learn from your link above is exactly what Jeremy mentions not only in his ebook but also throughout the BIP project - which is to get started in this business by focusing on promoting a niche you are interested in and have knowledge of or what to gain knowledge in.
Don't expect to become a super affiliate millionaire over night or next month - set reasonable goals and measure your success in inches.
Jeremy has displayed great integrity as a leader in this industry and has been remarkably generous by A) offering his popular ebook for free, B) offering this forum for free, and C) offering the BIP for free!!!
We all know it can be incredibly frustrating trying to sort things all out and get ahead in this industry and that is EXACTLY why Jeremy created the BIP to bridge the gap and help you grow.
I say all of this to say - I would challenge you to consider your comments more carefully in the future.
Submitted by danlifeisfun on Thu, 06/05/2008 - 15:26.
KE,
I paid $49 for HPAM over a year ago and I must say it was worth every penny and I would have paid ten times that amount.
Affiliate marketing continues to change monthly, sometimes for the better and sometime for the worse. Just look at what happened to all the NY affiliates. With that said, one book is never going to fit all.
Yes, TBIP sessions and the QYDJ forums are very informative and mostly likely the singles best resource for Affiliate marketing.
However, I guarantee there was information in HPAM that you found beneficial. I still re-read specific chapters from time to time and I am always absorbing something new.
Submitted by Jeremy Palmer on Wed, 06/04/2008 - 06:19.
Hi All,
No need to defend HPAM... The value of the information varies based on your current needs and expectations. It's impossible to write a book, make a movie, or play a song that everyone will like - so I'm not offended by KE's comments.
95% of QYDJ members have found it useful, and that's good enough for me ;)
Re KE: Profitable Niches + Affiliate Edge
As I mentioned in the first session of the Black Ink Project, finding a good niche isn't really a secret. Knowing what niches others have succeeded in won't help you make money. Studying how they succeeded and learning about their thought process and applying it to your own business model will help.
It's not easy, and you can expect some failures along the way. But if you're learning and improving from your efforts, you'll make steady progress and eventually succeed.
There was nothing offensive about my comments. I paid for Jeremy's e-book, didn't find it particularly useful, but I do find this new forum, which he set-up to be much more useful to me. I suppose I just have a different learning style. Jeremy is not a baby and you don't need to come here and act like he is going to start crying simply because I said I prefer his forum set-up to his e-book!
I posted the link to this 17 year old because I think the concept is the same. i.e. at the end of the day, you have to get people to click on those ad's. That's why I think it's relevant. In order for her to make 70K a month, someone is clicking on her ads.
Anyway, I want to focus on my current dilemma of trying to find a profitable niche and will appreciate any advice on this issue.
Check out the resource guide
Check out the resource guide from Session 1 of the Black Ink Project - http://www.theblackinkproject.com/guides/session-1.pdf
Networks like AzoogleAds,
Networks like AzoogleAds, Hydra, NeverBlue, PepperJam have lots of PPL offers to choose from...
http://www.cpa-affiliates.com/cpa-affiliates-top-5-networks/
Check out offer vault.. you can see the variety of different PPL offers from the different networks:
http://www.offervault.com
Jasper
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/JasperP
Thanks
Thanks
I've found a lot of PPL
I've found a lot of PPL merchants on both CJ and Linkshare. My business is 100% PPL, so I'm always looking for new ones. I think CPA Empire is a big one too.
James
James: Are there any
James:
Are there any products that you find PPL works best for? when I think PPL, I'm think informational E-books (how to lose weight, how to get rid of a flu, etc, etc).
Pretty much anything having
Pretty much anything having to do with the service industry. Also, things like home loans, personal loans, auto loans. With PPL, I do 100% PPC, I don't do any mailing lists or anything like that. That's too much like work! LOL
James
Loans are way too
Loans are way too competitive for a newbie like me and very expensive! Any other good suggestions for niche PPL offers?
Actually, loans are how I
Actually, loans are how I got my start. Listen to the first session of the Black Ink Project, Jeremy talks about competitive niches. You may have to pay $2 to $5 a click, but you can make $50 to $100 a lead.
James
james, what was your initial
james,
what was your initial PPC investment if you were spending $2 - $5 a click?
When I first started, my
When I first started, my budget was very small, only about $300 a day. It was very frustrating to know my campaigns were capable of making money, but I couldn't afford to run them, so I had to pause my ads until I got my next check from CJ. After I was able to build up my business capital and before the mortgage market went to hell, I was spending around $1,000 to $1,500 a day.
James
$300 a day is $2,100 a month
$300 a day is $2,100 a month and I think that's actually quite high! that's what many people pay for their monthly mortgages.
I was thinking of spending not more than $500 for the first month as a test drive. Do you think you can achieve success with such a small amount?
Actually, $300 a day would
Actually, $300 a day would be $9,000 a month, I think you meant $2,100 a week but you're correct, that is a little on the high end.
If you're spending a little over $16 a day, you may have a little difficulty. You'll need to keep a close eye on your keywords to make sure you don't have any keywords that are costing you too much, and you'll need to determine what your money makers are pretty quickly.
My experience has been that keywords with low search volumes are difficult to track, so I mainly target high volume keywords. Keywords that only get 1 click a month, just don't offer enough data for me to make a decision. If I can find a keyword that gets 300 clicks a month and converts well, then I'm happy. I have lots of data to make my decision and I can make really good money from that word. Since I don’t want to rely on just one word, I try to come up with as many as I can and track those. I create a spread sheet of high volume keywords, and what position they were at when they made me money along with some other data and I work at optimizing those keywords. All the low volume keywords are just eating into my profit.
Also, if you have a low daily budget, your ads won’t get a lot of exposure, which will probably give you even less data to look at.
James
I thought one of the
I thought one of the attractions of AM was that it was a business you could start with very low costs (no inventory, no need for storage space, no employee's, etc, etc).
However, based on what you have said here, this is not the case. I suspect that very few people can afford to "blow" $9,000 dollars a month on an initial experiment (unless you don't mind accumulating huge credit card debts while you are still learning).
I think looking into a blog type site and building it up with SEO and links, might be a better and cheaper option for me.
I've read about a number of bloggers who are making upwards of $50,000 dollars a month and not spending a dime on PPC!
How much of that $9,000 dollars a month comes back in PURE profit? the idea of spending $9,000 a month, just to make an extra $1,000 a month doesn't really appeal to me.
Don't let this discourage
Don't let this discourage you, it took me about 3 to 6 months to build up to the point where I could spend $9,000 a month. Actually, before the mortgage market fell, I was spending around $1,500 a day, but I had to work up to that.
I don't think it would be unreasonable to make around $3,000 a month if you're spending $9,000 a month. That is if you can find a good merchant in a good niche, do good keyword research and tracking and design a site that converts well.
Also, keep in mind that once you have a campaign very well optimized, many times they go into autopilot mode. Especially with the PPL I promote, because you don't have to worry about adding new product models, or removing old products. This means you're making $3000 a month whether you're sleeping, eating dinner at a nice restaurant, mowing the lawn or working on new campaigns. That's the beauty of residual income.
I've always worked with PPL in the service industry, but I didn't start with mortgages, I started in cheaper industries where I could get clicks cheaper. I started out in industries where the commission was only $7 to $15 dollars and I was only paying .30 to .90 a click. That way, I didn't have to pay as much for my education, I could learn without having to spend too much. I'm glad I did too, because I really struggled at first. I had the web knowledge, but not the marketing knowledge. Between Jeremy's ebook and my own first hand experience, I was able to get to the point where I was ready and could afford to spend that type of money.
All I meant is the more you can start with, the faster you can learn and the more testing you can do. Jeremy talks about this in one of the Black Ink Project webinars. Since you have less to spend, there will be less room for errors.
Trust me, if I can do it, you can make it work too.
James
I read Jeremy's e-book and
I read Jeremy's e-book and I'm not sure why everyone is praising it so much. There's really no information in the e-book that will give me an "edge" in terms of learning affiliate marketing. I'm actually learning more from this forums where I get to ask people like you specific questions.
My main problem right now is figuring out what to sell and because I don't have money to waste, it can't be an expensive niche with expensive keywords.
I plan to outsource the building of the website so that I can concentrate of the marketing end of things, but I first have to figure out what to sell.
read this: 17 year old making 70K a month and not spending a dime on PPC.(http://www.fastcompany.com/node/60278/print)
KE:
KE:
I'm not one to typically do this (as I'm sick of adults acting like children in forums) but that post got under my skin...
I take issue with your comments regarding Jeremy's book. First, his book has been praised by top level affiliates (worldwide) and there is no other affiliate book on the market (especially FREE) that offers as much insight into affiliate marketing--I challenge you to compare.
As far as the forum goes - it was created to supplement the original ebook (another bright idea of the ebook's author for YOUR benefit) - which incidentally would have been at a cost to you previously.
I don't know about you but I couldn't make $5 trying to promote a site targeted to 17-year-old females - I have NO clue what they are interested in right now, but the owner of the website in the link you shared does know because she is 17 and that is why she saw success - she wasn't "looking for what to sell", rather, she focused on a project that she and her peers were interested in and built a "Viral" empire almost by accident.
I'm sure (because of my age) I could (easily) start a blog and post relevant topics that appeal to a male audience in their late 20's to early 30's - that would make money as the traffic grew (over time) and I gained subscribers. Not only would my subscribers see relevant ads on my blog but I'd have a targeted group of folks I know a lot about - simply because they are in my age group - whom I could send relevant offers to over and over again.
The greatest lesson to learn from your link above is exactly what Jeremy mentions not only in his ebook but also throughout the BIP project - which is to get started in this business by focusing on promoting a niche you are interested in and have knowledge of or what to gain knowledge in.
Don't expect to become a super affiliate millionaire over night or next month - set reasonable goals and measure your success in inches.
Jeremy has displayed great integrity as a leader in this industry and has been remarkably generous by A) offering his popular ebook for free, B) offering this forum for free, and C) offering the BIP for free!!!
We all know it can be incredibly frustrating trying to sort things all out and get ahead in this industry and that is EXACTLY why Jeremy created the BIP to bridge the gap and help you grow.
I say all of this to say - I would challenge you to consider your comments more carefully in the future.
Twitter.com/RyanHakes
HPAM
KE,
I paid $49 for HPAM over a year ago and I must say it was worth every penny and I would have paid ten times that amount.
Affiliate marketing continues to change monthly, sometimes for the better and sometime for the worse. Just look at what happened to all the NY affiliates. With that said, one book is never going to fit all.
Yes, TBIP sessions and the QYDJ forums are very informative and mostly likely the singles best resource for Affiliate marketing.
However, I guarantee there was information in HPAM that you found beneficial. I still re-read specific chapters from time to time and I am always absorbing something new.
Dan
Follow me on Twitter.
http://twitter.com/dschuyler
Hi All, No need to defend
Hi All,
No need to defend HPAM... The value of the information varies based on your current needs and expectations. It's impossible to write a book, make a movie, or play a song that everyone will like - so I'm not offended by KE's comments.
95% of QYDJ members have found it useful, and that's good enough for me ;)
Re KE: Profitable Niches + Affiliate Edge
As I mentioned in the first session of the Black Ink Project, finding a good niche isn't really a secret. Knowing what niches others have succeeded in won't help you make money. Studying how they succeeded and learning about their thought process and applying it to your own business model will help.
It's not easy, and you can expect some failures along the way. But if you're learning and improving from your efforts, you'll make steady progress and eventually succeed.
Best,
Jeremy
Ryan:There was nothing
Ryan:
There was nothing offensive about my comments. I paid for Jeremy's e-book, didn't find it particularly useful, but I do find this new forum, which he set-up to be much more useful to me. I suppose I just have a different learning style. Jeremy is not a baby and you don't need to come here and act like he is going to start crying simply because I said I prefer his forum set-up to his e-book!
I posted the link to this 17 year old because I think the concept is the same. i.e. at the end of the day, you have to get people to click on those ad's. That's why I think it's relevant. In order for her to make 70K a month, someone is clicking on her ads.
Anyway, I want to focus on my current dilemma of trying to find a profitable niche and will appreciate any advice on this issue.
"Anyway, I want to focus on
"Anyway, I want to focus on my current dilemma of trying to find a profitable niche and will appreciate any advice on this issue."
KE: James has given you a ton of useful advice in this single thread - but I don't see any appreciation coming from your direction.
Moe