I think those that know me would know better but I'll just say that there are many folks that learn how to do things better by watching than reading. Jeremy understands this - thus the format of BIP II
Hi everyone - this question will most likely be answered in the video series but I'm just curious if any of you guys/gals are encountering this.
Has anyone using oms run into any problems passing sub id's? I setup a new affiliate platform (neverblue) and uploaded the transaction report. I then setup a campaign in yahoo with about 10 keywords (I wanted to test oms before fully launching), each having its own landing page and ad group. I then download from yahoo, into oms for tracking info. I then export from OMS but before I uploaded it to yahoo, I tested all the url's and they all went to the correct page however no sub id was passed.
So I tried azoogle, a network that comes pre-installed on OMS and still no sub id passed. OMS shows sub ids but the networks dont. I must of messed up somewhere, my guess is either uploading the transaction report or having a seperate landing page per keyword but not quite sure. Anybody else successfully setup a new affiliate platform? Any advice?
Submitted by harbor4393 on Tue, 07/22/2008 - 15:55.
I have hundred's of transactions per day with various networks and my OMS sub id's track fine. If your sub-id isn't passing to the affiliate network it could be one or more of the following:
1) Make sure the OMS tracking script and the page on your website that you grab the cookie is the same url, otherwise it will not work.
For example: If your tracking page is http://www.yoursite.com/oms_track/tracking.php, then you need to grab the cookie using a page with the url http://www.yoursite.com/. Otherwise, if you are redirecting to a different url you won't be able to grab the tracking cookie because it was set with a another url.
2) Make sure you are attaching the cookie to your affiliate link.
Example NeverBlue:
http://nbjmp.com/click/?s=xxxxx&c=xxx&subid=<?php echo $_COOKIE ['visitor_id']; ?>
If this doesn't solve your problem, provide some more information and I will try to help.
First off, thanks jeff for replying, I appreciate the assistance!! :)
I have many questions....
1. do you use seperate landing pages to achieve your 100's of transactions? Or is it just one landing page? Just curious as how you setup oms knowing that
2. My tracking script & landing page setup is exactly how you specified
so if I was gonna use a specific landing page I would want to change the tracking url? To something like this http://mysite.com/landingpage/oms_track/tracking.php or something similiar? If so, the directory for oms would change?
I created a landing page for each keyword and I understood that OMS would append tracking information to each specific url, I see now that it does add the tracking code but doesn't pass the sub id as I have the landing page set to http://mysite.com (default)
3. I did not have the affiliate link setup with the code you shared
Example NeverBlue:
http://nbjmp.com/click/?s=xxxxx&c=xxx&subid=<?php echo $_COOKIE ['visitor_id']; ?>
so I would want to add
&subid=<?php echo $_COOKIE ['visitor_id']; ?>
to each affiliate link I create in OMS? and I would want to create multiple links or just one link? I edited my link in oms and appended that code and then tested the link that went to my homepage but it did not pass onto the network. Could you maybe give a brief description of how you setup oms for your site to track sub id's? That would be super helpful as tracking seems to baffle me.
Submitted by harbor4393 on Tue, 07/22/2008 - 18:43.
Scott,
To answer your questions:
1) I use dozens of landing pages. When I upload my campaigns to OMS I have specific url's assigned to each keyword. When you export from OMS with tracking url's OMS with attach your specific destination url's that you assigned in your campaign. If you did not assign specific destination url's to your campaign OMS will assign the landing page url you fill in when you export your keywords.
OMS will redirect your tracking links to the default landing page you specify on the export page unless you have already assigned unique landing pages when you uploaded your campaign.
3) It sounds like you are using the link cloaking feature in OMS. If that is the case you do not need to append "<?php echo $_COOKIE['visitor_id']; ?>" to your affiliate link. OMS will automatically do it for you. You just need to copy and paste the cloaked link to your web page.
If is not working for you, you might not have set up NeverBlue correctly in OMS. Make sure when you set-up the Neverblue affiliate platform in OMS that for the Sub ID parameter you entered "subid".
How many affiliate links are you trying to set up for a specific merchant. Is it more than one?
I do not use the link cloaking feature in OMS. I wrote my own simple php redirect script.
I hope this answers your questions. It is kind of hard to explain in writing.
So I just tested somethings, first I reverse engineered everything, I used a naked link with the code you provided and put it on my landing page to test. The network registered this, yay! However, this link shows the visitors that its an affiliate link. Before oms I used a php redirect to pretty up my links. You said you wrote a simple php redirect. I tried this, not sure if its the same as your code but I used
it works fine, just no sub id passed. Good thing Im a stubborn guy! haha
So it looks like I have figured out how to track sub id's via the "naked" affiliate link with php code at the end Now my problem is the php re-direct. Is your code similiar to that re-direct I posted?
I was using the link cloaking in OMS but for some reason, it didn't pass the sub id and for OMS to work, Im guesing the sub ids need to match on the OMS end and the affilate network end. I have the sub id paramenter set as "subid" in the neverblue affiliate platform setup. Since I was able to pass the sub id on via that nude link, I think that part is cool.
I only setup 1 link that was cloaked in OMS, but never had any success passing the sub id, so, with your suggestions I am able to pass the sub id's so thank you for that.
Any suggestion as far as the php redirect? That seems to be the way to go and do you use the same php redirect on all your landing pages or a different redirect file for each page?
Note, you need to change http://youraffiliatelink.com to your affiliate link. Also, you need to change ?sub= to reflect the affiliate networks sub id tracking. If your affiliate link already has a ? in it then make sure you use & with the sub id.
All you need to do is copy this php code only (DO NOT ADD ANY HTML OR ANY OTHER CODE)in to your html editor or notepad and save the file as a php extension. I usually save it as the merchant I am promoting. For example, acme-widgets.php. Finally, just point the link on your landing page to that file and you will be all set.
Jeff, I cannot thank you enough, your sage advice was priceless! I just tested your php redirect and waaaa laaaa it sent the sub id to both oms and neverblue and my links look pretty too. Thanks again buddy, you just helped me out tremendously!!! I owe ya a beer or four! Brilliant!
Did you not feel like
Did you not feel like reading the user's guide?
I thought the first 2 sections made it very clear how to go about doing it.
-Ken
got twitter?
www.twitter.com/kensavage
Thats probably why Ryan is
Thats probably why Ryan is asking for a video Ken, what'ca think????
I think those that know me
I think those that know me would know better but I'll just say that there are many folks that learn how to do things better by watching than reading. Jeremy understands this - thus the format of BIP II
Twitter.com/RyanHakes
Hey RyanWhat I meant was
Hey Ryan
What I meant was that you wouldn't be requesting a video if you understood everything in the guide.
From all the good info. I've seen you post, I think all you do is read. - LOL (just kidding)
Although I'm not that far along with OMS, videos always clear things up for me too.
Barry
Hi Ryan, After Black Ink 2 I
Hi Ryan,
After Black Ink 2 I will be putting more time into Optimize My Site. I plan to create a series of videos on how to install/use OMS.
Best,
Jeremy
YAY video series! subid???
Hi everyone - this question will most likely be answered in the video series but I'm just curious if any of you guys/gals are encountering this.
Has anyone using oms run into any problems passing sub id's? I setup a new affiliate platform (neverblue) and uploaded the transaction report. I then setup a campaign in yahoo with about 10 keywords (I wanted to test oms before fully launching), each having its own landing page and ad group. I then download from yahoo, into oms for tracking info. I then export from OMS but before I uploaded it to yahoo, I tested all the url's and they all went to the correct page however no sub id was passed.
So I tried azoogle, a network that comes pre-installed on OMS and still no sub id passed. OMS shows sub ids but the networks dont. I must of messed up somewhere, my guess is either uploading the transaction report or having a seperate landing page per keyword but not quite sure. Anybody else successfully setup a new affiliate platform? Any advice?
Thanks :-)
-Skeever
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www.twitter.com/skeever
I have hundred's of
I have hundred's of transactions per day with various networks and my OMS sub id's track fine. If your sub-id isn't passing to the affiliate network it could be one or more of the following:
1) Make sure the OMS tracking script and the page on your website that you grab the cookie is the same url, otherwise it will not work.
For example: If your tracking page is http://www.yoursite.com/oms_track/tracking.php, then you need to grab the cookie using a page with the url http://www.yoursite.com/. Otherwise, if you are redirecting to a different url you won't be able to grab the tracking cookie because it was set with a another url.
2) Make sure you are attaching the cookie to your affiliate link.
Example NeverBlue:
http://nbjmp.com/click/?s=xxxxx&c=xxx&subid=<?php echo $_COOKIE ['visitor_id']; ?>
If this doesn't solve your problem, provide some more information and I will try to help.
Jeff
More info provided
First off, thanks jeff for replying, I appreciate the assistance!! :)
I have many questions....
1. do you use seperate landing pages to achieve your 100's of transactions? Or is it just one landing page? Just curious as how you setup oms knowing that
2. My tracking script & landing page setup is exactly how you specified
tracking page
http://mysite.com/oms_track/tracking.php
landing page
http://mysite.com
so if I was gonna use a specific landing page I would want to change the tracking url? To something like this http://mysite.com/landingpage/oms_track/tracking.php or something similiar? If so, the directory for oms would change?
I created a landing page for each keyword and I understood that OMS would append tracking information to each specific url, I see now that it does add the tracking code but doesn't pass the sub id as I have the landing page set to http://mysite.com (default)
3. I did not have the affiliate link setup with the code you shared
Example NeverBlue:
http://nbjmp.com/click/?s=xxxxx&c=xxx&subid=<?php echo $_COOKIE ['visitor_id']; ?>
so I would want to add
&subid=<?php echo $_COOKIE ['visitor_id']; ?>
to each affiliate link I create in OMS? and I would want to create multiple links or just one link? I edited my link in oms and appended that code and then tested the link that went to my homepage but it did not pass onto the network. Could you maybe give a brief description of how you setup oms for your site to track sub id's? That would be super helpful as tracking seems to baffle me.
Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks jeff
-Scott
Twitter Me This....
www.twitter.com/skeever
Scott, To answer your
Scott,
To answer your questions:
1) I use dozens of landing pages. When I upload my campaigns to OMS I have specific url's assigned to each keyword. When you export from OMS with tracking url's OMS with attach your specific destination url's that you assigned in your campaign. If you did not assign specific destination url's to your campaign OMS will assign the landing page url you fill in when you export your keywords.
2) This is the default OMS export page:
tracking page
http://mysite.com/oms_track/tracking.php (DO NOT CHANGE THIS)
landing page
http://mysite.com
OMS will redirect your tracking links to the default landing page you specify on the export page unless you have already assigned unique landing pages when you uploaded your campaign.
3) It sounds like you are using the link cloaking feature in OMS. If that is the case you do not need to append "<?php echo $_COOKIE['visitor_id']; ?>" to your affiliate link. OMS will automatically do it for you. You just need to copy and paste the cloaked link to your web page.
If is not working for you, you might not have set up NeverBlue correctly in OMS. Make sure when you set-up the Neverblue affiliate platform in OMS that for the Sub ID parameter you entered "subid".
How many affiliate links are you trying to set up for a specific merchant. Is it more than one?
I do not use the link cloaking feature in OMS. I wrote my own simple php redirect script.
I hope this answers your questions. It is kind of hard to explain in writing.
Jeff
Thanks Jeff
Jeff,
Thanks for the response, I appreciate it!
So I just tested somethings, first I reverse engineered everything, I used a naked link with the code you provided and put it on my landing page to test. The network registered this, yay! However, this link shows the visitors that its an affiliate link. Before oms I used a php redirect to pretty up my links. You said you wrote a simple php redirect. I tried this, not sure if its the same as your code but I used
<?php header( 'Location: http://nbjmp.com/click/?s=xxxxx&c=xxx&subid=<?php echo $_COOKIE ['visitor_id']; ?>' ) ;?>
and by doing this I get an error in the query string. like so
Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_STRING in mysite/test.php on line 1
However if I use this redirect without the php code you provided earlier,
<?php header( 'Location: http://nbjmp.com/click/?s=xxxxx&c=xxx' ) ;?>
it works fine, just no sub id passed. Good thing Im a stubborn guy! haha
So it looks like I have figured out how to track sub id's via the "naked" affiliate link with php code at the end Now my problem is the php re-direct. Is your code similiar to that re-direct I posted?
I was using the link cloaking in OMS but for some reason, it didn't pass the sub id and for OMS to work, Im guesing the sub ids need to match on the OMS end and the affilate network end. I have the sub id paramenter set as "subid" in the neverblue affiliate platform setup. Since I was able to pass the sub id on via that nude link, I think that part is cool.
I only setup 1 link that was cloaked in OMS, but never had any success passing the sub id, so, with your suggestions I am able to pass the sub id's so thank you for that.
Any suggestion as far as the php redirect? That seems to be the way to go and do you use the same php redirect on all your landing pages or a different redirect file for each page?
Thanks a million buddy!
Scott
Twitter Me This....
www.twitter.com/skeever
This is the code I use for a
This is the code I use for a php redirect:
<?php
$location = "Location: http://youraffiliatelink.com";
if(isset($_COOKIE['visitor_id'])) {
$location = $location . "?sub=" . $_COOKIE['visitor_id'];
}
header($location);
exit;
?>
Note, you need to change http://youraffiliatelink.com to your affiliate link. Also, you need to change ?sub= to reflect the affiliate networks sub id tracking. If your affiliate link already has a ? in it then make sure you use & with the sub id.
For example NeverBlue:
<?php
$location = "Location: http://nbjmp.com/click/?s=xxxxx&c=xxx";
if(isset($_COOKIE['visitor_id'])) {
$location = $location . "&subid=" . $_COOKIE['visitor_id'];
}
header($location);
exit;
?>
All you need to do is copy this php code only (DO NOT ADD ANY HTML OR ANY OTHER CODE)in to your html editor or notepad and save the file as a php extension. I usually save it as the merchant I am promoting. For example, acme-widgets.php. Finally, just point the link on your landing page to that file and you will be all set.
Jeff
Awesome!
Jeff, I cannot thank you enough, your sage advice was priceless! I just tested your php redirect and waaaa laaaa it sent the sub id to both oms and neverblue and my links look pretty too. Thanks again buddy, you just helped me out tremendously!!! I owe ya a beer or four! Brilliant!
Cheers and thanks again!!!
Scotty
Twitter Me This....
www.twitter.com/skeever
Your welcome. If you any
Your welcome. If you any more questions don't hesitate to ask.
Jeff